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Dec. 9th, 2006

Wow. According to LJ the "N-word" does not qualify as hate speech:

"With regards to rx_suicide, please allow us to explain our policies concerning hate speech. “Hate speech” is defined as material which encourages violence against a particular ethnic, religious, or racial group. While using a racial epithet is indeed distasteful and offensive, the LiveJournal Abuse Team cannot consider rx_suicide's comment to be in violation of the LiveJournal Terms of Service (http://www.livejournal.com/legal/tos.bml) as it does not meet the above definition. I apologize for this."


Just wow.

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thebigbadbutch
Dec. 9th, 2006 06:22 am (UTC)
agreed
vivelanuit
Dec. 9th, 2006 05:55 am (UTC)
Why does their response not surprise me?
sprorion
Dec. 9th, 2006 06:14 am (UTC)
b/c we did this ourselves. What other ethnic group uses racial slurs against itself?
(no subject) - nicehotsoup - Dec. 9th, 2006 06:36 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - sprorion - Dec. 9th, 2006 11:02 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - nicehotsoup - Dec. 9th, 2006 02:43 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - karnythia - Dec. 9th, 2006 02:57 pm (UTC) - Expand
I Co-sign this - witchsistah - Dec. 9th, 2006 06:21 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: I Co-sign this - daveanthony - Dec. 9th, 2006 10:58 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - daveanthony - Dec. 9th, 2006 11:03 pm (UTC) - Expand
witchsistah
Dec. 9th, 2006 06:09 am (UTC)
Fine, we'll just continue to "cracka-ass-cracka" in here.
cynicgal
Dec. 9th, 2006 06:21 am (UTC)
I believe the preferred term these days is 'Cracka McCrackason.'
(no subject) - witchsistah - Dec. 9th, 2006 06:34 am (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - cynicgal - Dec. 9th, 2006 06:41 am (UTC) - Expand
Please... - i_dreamed_i_was - Dec. 10th, 2006 05:46 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - yes_justice - Dec. 11th, 2006 06:39 pm (UTC) - Expand
daveanthony
Dec. 9th, 2006 06:23 am (UTC)
This is bullshit. Call them on this.

Form their own TOS WHICH THEY PROVIDE A LINK TO:

Under Section XVI: Member Conduct:

You agree to NOT use the Service to:

1. Upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive to another's privacy (up to, but not excluding any address, email, phone number, or any other contact information without the written consent of the owner of such information), hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;

NOWHERE in here is there ANYTHING that defines "raciall, ethnically or otherwise objectionable" as requiring a threat of violence.

Whoever sent this to you, you need to send this back to them.
daveanthony
Dec. 9th, 2006 06:26 am (UTC)
Oh. Not to mention that calling someone a 'n-----r' is, IMO, a harmful, abusive and even violent act, and CERTAINLY is "racially objectionable."
(no subject) - mizcrank - Dec. 9th, 2006 06:29 am (UTC) - Expand
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iawtc - recumbentgoat - Dec. 9th, 2006 01:27 pm (UTC) - Expand
(no subject) - loomis_simmons - Dec. 9th, 2006 02:44 pm (UTC) - Expand
kristiangrrl
Dec. 9th, 2006 07:09 am (UTC)
THE STUPID IS BURNING ME ALIVE.
Whoa whoa whoa.

Didn't the bitch say that someone deserved to be lynched?

ISN'T LYNCHING AN ENCOURAGEMENT OF VIOLENCE?

Michael Richards, get off the fucking LJ Abuse panel.
daveanthony
Dec. 9th, 2006 07:25 am (UTC)
Re: THE STUPID IS BURNING ME ALIVE.
well yeah but see....uh.... it said encourage violence against a racial group, see.. but she was just encouraging violence against one person. yeah...that's uh..that's it.
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Re: THE STUPID IS BURNING ME ALIVE. - acidcookiegirl - Dec. 9th, 2006 08:06 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: THE STUPID IS BURNING ME ALIVE. - thegirliscrazy - Dec. 11th, 2006 04:36 pm (UTC) - Expand
bana05
Dec. 9th, 2006 11:17 am (UTC)
They forgot to add, "only if against people who are NOT Negro".
yes_justice
Dec. 11th, 2006 06:44 pm (UTC)
That would account for it.
singsomelyrical
Dec. 9th, 2006 02:23 pm (UTC)
I got the same email.

:/
cindel
Dec. 9th, 2006 02:33 pm (UTC)
Bullshit!! Scroll down to member conduct on TOS and send that shit back!
brandipoo
Dec. 9th, 2006 03:03 pm (UTC)
I did. Lets see what happens. And I told them it was they way to guarentee i'll never be a paid member. Hit em where it hurts!! their pocketbooks!
(no subject) - snowflake_star - Dec. 9th, 2006 05:46 pm (UTC) - Expand
Same here - witchsistah - Dec. 9th, 2006 06:22 pm (UTC) - Expand
littledrummrboy
Dec. 9th, 2006 04:52 pm (UTC)
they can kiss my ass with that shit.

I bet I could find some case law contrary to their claim, and while it would be in no way binding for an entity like LJ, sometimes Johnny USA knows what he's talking about more than these cats. Further, and more damning, however, is the fact that daveanthony pointed out that it's a violation of their OWN FUCKING TERMS OF SERVICE. Don't hand me that shit.
jette
Dec. 9th, 2006 07:30 pm (UTC)
Wait, didn't the comment in question also include a lynching reference? How is that not hate speech?

All I know is, I don't care about what TOS says, if anyone used that word in any of my comms, that's an auto-ban.

karnythia helps me moderate big_kids now, so if it happened in there they'd really hope I saw it before she, because I'd probably just ban and be done but there's no telling what she might do.
black_berry623
Dec. 9th, 2006 11:55 pm (UTC)
please update us with another post when you have something new
yogaclass4cats
Dec. 10th, 2006 12:15 am (UTC)
I wrote LJ Abuse a letter saying that, if this is how they interpret TOS, they won't be receiving anymore of my money when my paid account expires. Seriously, this is bull. I'm all for free speech, but how are you going to violate your own TOS, which clearly bans racially objectionable material?

Whatever, they have the right to be horrible about this, just like I have the right to never pay them another dime :)
likelesliecaron
Dec. 10th, 2006 01:10 am (UTC)
wow that's bullshit.
little_yew
Dec. 10th, 2006 04:17 am (UTC)
Fail. Fail, fail, fail.
littleeva
Dec. 10th, 2006 11:18 pm (UTC)
I think you should save this post. The next time someone insults you, calls you a n____, and you call them Cracka McCrackason, and they complain, you can send LJ this and tell them that to call someone a Cracka can't be "hate speech" if n____ is.

I think also we should all ask LJ what exactly is "hate speech." And then tell LJ it would be a shame if this site became like AOL where no one moderates any discussion.
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